2015 Update on the presumed descendents of William Rublier and Abigail Brush

Cindy Walcott, on behalf of those researching the Roblee family, has updated her earlier work on the presumed descendants of William Rublier and Abigail Brush.  The report is available for downloading from the link below.   Unlike previous versions (which remain available from the site), this file is not password protected. We do ask that individuals using the file respect Cindy’s great contribution to the family history, and share the file only after giving her credit for this research.

Here’s Cindy’s comment about the file:

“The last update was in 2011. Since that time, I have continued to review my
data periodically, with the goal of making it as accurate and complete as
possible. Since 2011, a growing number of vital records are available on
line on familysearch.org, ancestry.com and other sites. Also, I have made
liberal use of historic newspaper sites, such as fultonhistory.com and
nyshistoricnewspapers.org. They have been especially helpful for New York
families. I have been charmed by all of the local news I found on these
sites. Not only news of birth, marriages and deaths, but a myriad of little
details like who travelled where to visit whom,

“As always, I hope you will take the time to review the information about
your own ancestry, and to correct me where necessary. I have excluded
information about living people, or people presumed to be living, based on
year of birth.

“I think about all of those relatives of ours who died at birth, or during
childhood, or who left no descendants.  In some ways, I feel a special
obligation to them. Who remembers them, or tends their graves?  Let us be
the ones.”

The document is in PDF format, and is approximately 4MB in size.

Presumed Descendents of William Rublier and Abigail Brush

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Seeking a Polina Robblee (Case) Blair Descendent

An e-mail message was sent to the Roblee mailing list at RootsWeb by Cindy Walcott, a dedicated member of the Roblee Researchers group.  The message is quoted below. Cindy and I agreed to assemble a document, post here on our site, and share this information, and perhaps ultimately the Bible itself, with a descendent of Polina (Robblee) (Case) Blair.  If a reader is a descendent of Polina, and wishes to possession of this Bible, please contact Cindy by e-mail (her address is shown below.

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:10:54 -0500

From: Cindy Walcott <cwalcott141@gmail.com>
Subject: [ROBLEE] You never know what your day will bring

Today at work I received a message from Marc DeLorenzo.  It turns out that he is in possession of the Family Bible of Polina (Robblee) (Case) Blair. Here is how it came into his possession:

“My uncle dealt in antiques etc. and did the road show circuit.  In 1982 (when I was only 12), I worked a weekend show with him, and as payment, he let me choose an item to take home.  I love history, so the bible was really cool to me and I accepted it as my payment.  I have had it ever since.  It was already in the current condition when I received it.

“I have dreamed of bringing it back to the family who could appreciate it, and it looks like after many hours I may have done so!”

Marc sent images of the family history entries, and will be sending me the Bible itself. I will regard myself as its temporary custodian. It may be that a descendant of Polina will be identified. In that case, I will re-gift it.

Doug, I am thinking that we could post the images of the pages on our web site. I know that I should figure out how to do that myself, but most likely will require your help.

I am copying Marc on this message. I want him to know how much we all appreciate his stewardship of this Bible over the years.

Cindy

The document we produced is shared through the link below. In it, you will find three things: (1) a transcription of the Family Register contained the Bible; (2) a register report that summarizes what is known about Polina and her family and (3) images of the Bible itself.

The file may be downloaded, and is not password protected. It may open in your browser, or you may wish to save/print the file.

Images_of_Family_Bible_Polina_(Robblee)_(Case)_Blair_c_1813 [PDF] – 1.7 MB

 

 

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Descendants of Loyalists Thomas and John Robblee

Bob Robblee of Alberta, Canada, and Cindy Walcott of Vermont have collaborated on a major piece of research on two possible sons of Andrew Rublier. Thomas and John Robblee were Loyalists who settled in Nova Scotia, Canada.  They have many descendants identified in a lengthy genealogical report now available for the benefit of Roblee researchers.

The report, which has an official publication date of November 2012, is the result of many years of collaboration between Bob and Cindy, and all are indebted to them for their efforts.

Download the file [PDF]

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Web Site Maintenance Completed

We have completed the upgraded software for the Roblee Researchers web site, and tghe system should be stable now. We apologize if you were unable to view the site at any time in the last 72 hours.

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William Rublier ‘Presumed’ Descendants Updated

Cindy Walcott, on behalf of those researching the Roblee family, has updated her earlier work on the presumed descendants of William Rublier and Abigail Brush.  The report is available for downloading from the link below.  Here’s Cindy’s introduction to the report:

This report is named the “Presumed” Descendants of William Rublier and Abigail Brush because we don’t know with certainty that the children listed below really are their children.  William and Abigail lived and had children in Huntington, Long Island, New York at the same time as Andrew Rublier and his two wives, the first named Hannah Brush and the second Abigail Hawkins.   There are a number of baptisms recorded between 1729 and 1740, but the parents of the individuals baptized are not given.  Researchers of these families have assigned children to each couple based on the best information available, but we could be wrong.  This report focuses on those families we believe are the children of William and Abigail.  Among the children we assume to be Andrew’s were John and Thomas Robblee.  Both were Loyalists and settled in Nova Scotia.  Bob Robblee is the primary researcher of their descendants and is expected to post a report on them.

Beyond this first generation, there are also some family connections made on the basis of an educated guess. If that is so, I have clearly indicated I also include “questions to myself” that reflect my thinking.  For instance: I ask myself “Was Lucia possibly a Benson?” based on the placement of her gravestone in the Jericho Center, VT cemetery.  I have tried to identify questions, speculations, and theories by using a red font, but I may have missed some.

I would ask that anyone using this report not turn “speculation” into “fact” when using the data for his or her own purposes.  I welcome any questions, criticisms, confirmations, rebuttals, etc.  My interest is in placing all of the individuals in their own families, locations and historical context.

The file is password protected, but the password is freely available from the archives of the Roblee researchers at the ROBLEE mailing list at Rootsweb, or by sending an e-mail to doug.detling@gmail.com.

Download [PDF] – 4.6MB

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Developing Resource Bibliography

I am in the process of developing a general bibliography that will help researchers place their ancestors in a historical context, and am soliciting comments and additions for this. A new page will be available on the web site listing these sources as they are compiled.

For example, my first suggested resources include the following:

Gehring, Charles T.  “Privatizing Colonization: The Patroonship of Rensselaerswijck.” Annals of New Netherland, 2000.  Gehring was Director of the New Netherland Project (though now retired). This paper is based on a talk before the Delaware County Historical Association at SUNY Delhi on September 24, 1994. Available at: http://www.nnp.org/nni/Annals/

Jacobs, Jaap. The Colony of New Netherland: A Dutch Settlement in Seventeenth-Century America. (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2009), paper edition.  A modern scholarly study, with translations of Dutch records, of the Dutch colonization of New Netherland.

Panetta, Roger (ed.). Dutch New York: The Roots of Hudson Valley Culture. (Yonkers: Hudson River Museum, Fordham University Press, 2009), paper. A look at the Dutch role in America’s origins and in creating habits, styles and practices of New York. Panetta of the Hudson River Collection of the Hudson River Museum. The book includes 13 original essays.

Comments and suggested additions will be incorporated into the resulting page available on this web site.  In no way are these first suggested items meant to imply a Dutch background for our Roblee ancestors.  In fact, the Dutch encouraged settlement without regard to the ancestry of those who came to New Netherland.

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The new home of the Roblee researchers

Welcome to the new home of the Roblee researchers web site.  Materials from our old site will be available shortly.

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Overview of our Family History

One of our principal researchers, Cindy Walcott, whose family link is a spelling variation, has prepared this brief overview to aid first time visitors to this site. Once more postings are made, this page will be converted permanent page on our site.

The names Robblee, Roblee and Rublee (at least) are all variations of the same surname. We have been able to trace our origins with some certainty back to Huntington, Long Island, New York.

Huntington, Long Island, New York, USA

The Huntington records, circa 1730, use the spelling variation Rublier, Rublear, Rublere and Rubleer. Rublear is the variation used in church records; other variations appear in land and other records at fair frequency. Andrew appears in the land records as early as 1730 and William in 1732. The most helpful information we have from Huntington is from the Records of the First Church in Huntington, Long Island. 1723-1779. Printed for Moses Scudder, Huntington, New York, 1899, as follows:

Marriages

21 December, 1727     William Rublear and Abigail Brush, both of Huntington
20 July, 1730     Andrew Rublear and Hannah Brush, both of Huntington
30 July, 1733       Andrew Rublear, widower, and Abigail Hawkins, both of Huntington

Baptisms

13 April, 1729     Abigail Rublear
21 January, 1732/3     William Rublear
10 May, 1734     Hannah Rublear
18 May, 1735     Thomas Rublear
11 April, 1736     Andrew Rublear
26 March, 1739     Reuben Rublear
9 March, 1739/40     John Rublear

The church records do not list the parents of children baptized, so we cannot organize these children into families with any certainty. This family disappears from the Huntington records by 1742 at the latest.

Dutchess County, New York, USA

The next sign we have of this family is in Dutchess County, New York. Here we see more name variations in the written record. This quote by Helen Wilkinson Reynolds in her article “A Dutchess County Before 1830” in The Quarterly Journal of the New York State Historical Association (Vol. 20, pp. 278-9) may explain of what we are up against:

“The first group of arrivals in Dutchess Co. was in the first quarter of the 18th century were largely of Dutch and Palentine German extraction, but included a few Walloons, French and English. The second, larger group were mostly English, from New England and Long Island, with a strong minority of Dutch from Long Island and New Jersey. From the first, Dutch and English languages competed for supremacy. Dutch began to give way to English in the 1760s. 18th century records are full of puzzling items produced by the phonetic spelling of Dutch words by English speaking people and vice versa.”

During the period 1740 – 1790, we see many name variations of Robblee, Rublee, etc. for men by the names of William, Rubin, Thomas, John, Andrew and Nathaniel in living in Southern Precinct, Nine Partners Patent, Rombout Precinct, Charlotte and Fredericksburg.

Lanesborough, Massachusetts, USA

For some of the family, the next stop was Lanesborough, MA. William and Reuben Robblee (as the name is spelled in the Lanesborough records) were in Lanesborough in 1768 when they both appear on a list of ratable estates. In the spring of that year, a deed for William refers to him as being “of Philips Patent, Dutchess Co., NY”, thus confirming where he came from. Church records reflect baptisms for children of both men.

Loyalists to Nova Scotia

It appears that, like so many families, the American Revolution split this family. A branch of this family supported the King. John and Thomas Robblee went to Nova Scotia at the end of the war. Their descendants live in Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island (and other places) to this day.

To New York and Vermont

Four of the sons of William Robblee of Lanesborough–and several of his daughters–settled in Vermont. For reasons unknown, this family chose the name variation Rublee. They first settled in New Haven, VT. There were so many Lanesborough families in New Haven, that one of the main roads in town is still called Lanesborough St. By about 1800, the four brothers–Hiram, Andrew, Francis and John Brush–had moved on to Berkshire, Franklin Co., VT. The daughters remained in New Haven with their husbands and families.

Reuben’s descendants removed to Granville, Washington Co., NY, along with the descendants of one or more Thomas Robblees, all using the spelling Robblee. In just one or two generations, however, the more common spelling was Roblee. By that time, many of the family had ventured west to Orleans Co. and Warren Co., NY and beyond to the territories “west”.

Other Names Possibly Connected

The names Raplee and Roblyer may also be name variations. A history of Yates County, NY tells us that a member of the Roblyer family decided to change the family name to Raplee about 1800.

The name Roblin seems not to be connected. Recently, we have been in touch with a descendant of Christopher Robley of England, who went to Australia. The name Robley has also been mentioned as appearing in Paris, France by our researchers. That connection has not yet been explored.

What about Rapalje and Robilliard?

At least two theories about family origins are currently being explored. The theory that has been around the longest is that the family is descended from Joris Rapalje (sometimes called Joris Jansen de Rapalje and/or anglicized to George), a French/Belgian Huguenot who was among the very earliest of the Dutch settlers of New Amsterdam. Joris Rapalje lived in Brooklyn, NY and vicinity. Much has been written about Joris and his family. This connection has not been proven.

A newly emerged theory is that the name is a derivation of Robilliard and that the family came from the Channel Islands. Again, this has not been proven.

How Will We Find Out?

Our best hope at this point seems to be to link with other researchers, share our knowledge, look for commonalities and new possibilities. If you’re interested in sharing information, please subscribe to this site, and subscribe to our ROBLEE email list at Rootsweb.com (instructions are found on our e-mail page). Or if you need to contact us, please send an e-mail to doug.detling@gmail.com.

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